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Giants news [url=http://www.newyorkgiantsteamonline.com/rhett-ellison-jersey]Authentic Rhett Ellison Jersey[/url] , , New York Giants fans! Let’s get your work week started with some Giants-related headlines.Interchangeable safetiesThe competition for the safety spot alongside Landon Collins has generally been billed as being for the “free safety” position. Curtis Riley, who looks more and more like the guy who is going to win that competition, says that isn’t necessarily the case.“In this defense, there really is no free and strong,” Riley said on Sunday. “You have to know both because if the offense motions, we all have to change our coverage and alignments and stuff like that.”Riley got the start Friday against the Detroit Lions, playing 22 snaps.Cody Latimer: Eli Manning “a great pro”When Cody Latimer began his NFL career, he was catching passes from Peyton Manning with the Denver Broncos. Now, he catches them from Eli Manning with the Giants. What are his thoughts on the Manning he plays with now?“He’s a quiet guy. He loves his job, very hard working. He’s always out there doing extra. He’s a great pro,” Latimer said. “I watched him a lot in the off-season, followed his lead, seeing how hard he studied, seeing how much extra work he put in on and off the field. The extra sprints that he does, leaving the building last, somebody that you love to be around. If you want to become a pro, watch him.”After four disappointing seasons in Denver, the former second-round pick came to the Giants as a free agent. Former Broncos wide receivers coach Tyke Tolbert is now in that job with the Giants.“I always say it was meant to be for me to be here,” Latimer said Subday. “I do see it as a second chance. It’s a fresh start, fresh team, it’s a new coaching staff here. Coming here with Tyke, a coach that previously knew me and knew my work ethic and knew what I had, for him to put in a word for me to try to come here is amazing. It’s a second chance that couldn’t have happened or didn’t need to happen, but it happened for a reason, and I’m making the most of it.”Who’s No. 2?After he started and played well Friday against Detroit, the logical conclusion is that Davis Webb has solidified his spot as the No. 2 quarterback behind Eli Manning, with rookie Kyle Lauletta No. 3 and veteran Alex Tanney fourth on the list. Coach Pat Shurmur, though, remains unwilling to publicly commit to a pecking order behind Manning.“We have Eli, and then there’s really no depth chart there,” Shurmur said. “(Webb) did a good job the other night. He played better than he did against Cleveland, and with the reps he gets this week coming up I’m expecting him to play even better. “Within a good performance, the numbers were good and he got a touchdown, but there were still some things in there that we need to clean up to have a winning performance in a real game.”Injury updatesWide receiver Travis Rudolph (quad) and cornerback Donte Deayon (hamstring) returned to practice after missing the first two games. They have 19 days and two preseason games before the roster cutdown to show the coaches what they can do.“They’ve got to get back in there [url=http://www.newyorkgiantsteamonline.com/kerry-wynn-jersey]Authentic Kerry Wynn Jersey[/url] ,” Shurmur said. “Again, their health is a front burner deal for us. We want to make sure they’re healthy before we put them out in an uncontrolled setting, so yeah they’ve got to catch up. That’s just the nature of being out.”Deayon in particular looked to be in the mix for one of the reserve cornerback roles before being injured.Around the Inter-GoogleRanking 11 Giants' position groups weakest to strongest | Anything better than WR? Best on defense? Bigger concern at OT or CB? | NJ.comGiants were weak at running back, linebacker and offensive tackle in 2017. Where have they improved most? Is Odell Beckham, Eli Manning or Saquon Barkley part of best position group?The race to be Eli Manning’s backup is heating upIt seems as if Davis Webb has the job locked up as Eli Manning’s backup, but the depth chart at quarterback isn’t that clear for Giants first-year coach Pat...Pat Shurmur happy to see Teddy Bridgewater’s second chancePat Shurmur was standing right there and he felt the pain.The Giants coach was just feet away when Teddy Bridgewater suffered a gruesome injury at training...Report: Giants RB Saquon Barkley Has Left Roc Nation for Marketing, Will Be Represented by CAANew York Giants rookie running back Saquon Barkley has left Roc Nation for marketing purposes, going to the Creative Artists Agency, Darren Rovell of ESPN reports. Barkley will, however, remain with Roc Nation agent Kim Miale for contracts and football matters.NY Giants: How Rob Martin go Rutgers' No. 2 RB to pushing for NFL job?NY Giants rookie running back Rob Martin was not even the starter at Rutgers last season. Now he's an NFL long shot pushing for a roster spotGiants' unusual solution to temporary shortage of running backs | Sights and sounds from practice | NJ.comWith Saquon Barkley and Jalen Simmons sidelined, there is opportunity for other running backs. Giants made a nickel personnel change and get 3 players back from injury.This 'resilient' Giants player looks like surprise answer to a major concern | 'It's not sweet out there' | NJ.comGiants need a cornerback to emerge as the nickel. Or has it already happened? B.W. Webb is on his 7th team in 6 seasons.Duggan: Thoughts on the Giants roster two weeks before cut-down day – The AthleticThe Giants have two more weeks until they need to trim their roster from 90 players to 53, but coach Pat Shurmur isn’t waiting until the Sept. 1 deadline to make decisions.The Giants return to practice Monday at 11:10 a.m. ET. Keep it here for all of your Giants coverage throughout the day.[E-mail Ed at bigblueview@gmail.com or via the Big Blue View Contact Page | Follow Big Blue View on Twitter | ‘Like’ Big Blue View on Facebook] As long as Odell Beckham Jr. has been a member of the New York Giants we have heard this. It’s difficult to get the ball down the field because opposing teams play soft zones. They use Cover 2 crowd the middle of the field. They run linebackers back into passing lanes. The Giants’ passing attack then is reduced to the underneath throws, the catch-and-run stuff, get the completion and hope Beckham or someone else could create magic.Sometimes that has worked. Too often is has not.The Giants drafted Evan Engram a year ago believing that a tight end who would threaten the seams vertically would require attention from defenses and open space for Beckham. Only, Engram was rarely used as a vertical threat.Well, another commonly accepted way of attacking the soft zones, the six- or seven-man fronts used by defenses bound and determined to prevent the big play, to keep everything in front and make opposing offenses go the long way is to run at them.To that end, new GM Dave Gettleman drafted spectacular running back Saquon Barkley No. 2 overall in the 2018 NFL Draft. Only so far it’s not working out the way the Giants had hoped. Beckham has 30 receptions in four games, on pace for a career-best 120. Barkley has 456 yards from scrimmage, 114.0 per game, and has gotten to at least 100 in all four games.The problem, though, is that the Giants haven’t really been able to get both players performing at their spectacular bests at the same time. At least not often enough. The Giants have scored fewer than 20 points in three of their four games.Sunday, while Beckham and Manning were struggling to get on the same page and the Giants were unable, unwilling or both to challenge the weak New Orleans secondary down the field, Barkley and the running game languished as an afterthought.Barkley carried only 10 times, a season-low, for 44 yards. He caught six passes, but only a couple of those were designed plays. Most were check downs or dump offs with Manning under pressure or unable to find a downfield throw he liked.Sunday evening, with the emotion of Sunday’s loss still simmering, coach Pat Shurmur was asked if he regretted not running the ball more with Barkley.“No, I think there were times we tried to run the ball. I don’t regret it, he needs to touch the ball,” Shurmur said. “Certainly by the looks of things here, him touching the ball more would be good.”Monday afternoon [url=http://www.newyorkgiantsteamonline.com/alec-ogletree-jersey]Authentic Alec Ogletree Jersey[/url] , having watched the film and had time to re-consider the way the game went, Shurmur had a somewhat different take.“Looking back on it, I think Barkley had 18 touches yesterday. I’d like to have a couple more probably, and those being runs certainly. We want to run the ball, we want to run the ball and when we want to throw it, we want to throw it, and we want to be explosive and efficient doing it. That’s the reality of it,” he said.“I wish I would’ve called more runs. That’s the reality of that, because I think the ball in Saquon’s hands is a good thing.”It’s a good thing because Barkley is a terrific player. He is averaging 4.6 yards per rushing attempt. It’s a good thing because when you feed him the ball that’s more opportunities for him to do things like break 28 yard runs, which he did Sunday. It’s a good thing thing because when he does that, and the defense knows they will be getting a steady dose of Barkley, they have to creep to the line of scrimmage. They have to load the box. They have to abandon that soft zone more often.Which should open more throwing lanes for Manning, lead to more opportunities to get the ball down the field and, ultimately, more big-play chances for Beckham.Barkley didn’t hesitate when asked what he thought the answer was to the soft zones played by the Dallas Cowboys and by the Saints.“Personally, run the ball. That’s something where I step in, where the offensive line steps in, and that’s something that we’ve got to take personal,” Barkley said When we see a team playing cover two and playing soft zone, that has to be disrespectful to us and that’s something we are really aware of and we hope to solve that problem really soon.”In both of those games, though, the Giants seemed to move away from their rookie running back. He carried just 11 times against the Cowboys and Manning threw a season-high 44 passes. In a game that wasn’t out of reach until the fourth quarter. Sunday, same thing. Only 10 runs for Barkley, a second 40-pass game (41 overall) for Manning. Again, New Orleans didn’t pull away until midway through the fourth quarter.Barkley referred to Beckham as “unstoppable,” which is really what the Giants were hoping the combination of Barkley, Beckham and their other play-makers would be.Manning passed the ball eight times in the red zone on Sunday vs. the Saints. Not a single one of those throws went toward Beckham. It looked as though he was the primary target on perhaps one of those throws but was covered.“What teams do in the red zone typically is they’ll double your star and then you move on,” Shurmur said. The Giants need to figure out a way to get Barkley and Beckham complementing each other, a way that forces defenses to have to make decisions. Too often so far this season each star has been a decoy, or an after thought, or a safety valve.What they haven’t been often enough, especially together, are weapons that used to attack defenses.Shurmur said Monday that the Giants have to “Keep looking for that right combination of things that gets us in the end zone.”Yes, they do. They need to find it before it’s too late. If it isn’t already too late for this season.